美国国家公共电台 NPR Encore: Mahershala Ali Plays An Unlikely Father Figure In 'Moonlight'

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ARI SHAPIRO, HOST:

The first cast member of "Moonlight" to take the stage last night was Mahershala Ali. He won the Oscar for best supporting actor. In the film, he plays a man conflicted about being both a drug dealer¹ and father figure to the story's hero.

AUDIE CORNISH, HOST:

Our colleague Kelly McEvers spoke² to Ali last fall about how he got into the business and whether he anticipated the limited number of roles Hollywood offers to young black actors.

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MAHERSHALA ALI: My dad had introduced me to indie films. So the stuff that I had a taste for, I'd certainly never saw myself in those parts. So growing up, it definitely affected³ my confidence or me understanding what could be accomplished⁴ because of only seeing myself in a very limited way.

It's been really hard for me to say I want to be a leading man, like to really say that. Because when I was growing up, I didn't see that. But I did see people helping⁵ the leading man. And the people helping the leading man always looked like me. And then when you feel it from the inside out, it's a little frustrating⁶, but the industry's changing. So these young men in this movie, they're going to have an entirely⁷ different experience than I've had...

KELLY MCEVERS, BYLINE⁸: Right.

ALI: ...Being in this business now for a decade and a half. I've been working for 16 years.

MCEVERS: You know, in the past couple years, you have played a really diverse range of characters - of course Remy Danton...

ALI: Oh, yeah.

MCEVERS: ...Ruthless power broker⁹ on "House Of Cards."

ALI: My buddy¹⁰.

MCEVERS: Yeah.

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MCEVERS: Your buddy, really. And then of course there's the complicated villain¹¹ who kind of has a heart, Cottonmouth from "Luke Cage" on Netflix. I don't know, you're just, like, playing, like, this spectrum¹² of, like, black maleness. Does it feel - I don't know, do you feel a - like a weight of responsibility? You know, I mean, there's a lot of complicated nuance¹³ in these characters.

ALI: I feel the responsibility to try to do great work. And that keeps me up at night sometime, just, you know, trying to figure out what my in is with these characters and how to really connect to them and sort of lose myself in them for that 16 hours a day. I have no interest in playing myself. I really don't think I'm that interesting.

I think that these characters though, the ones that I say yes to, are really interesting to me. And I respond to the ones where I feel like there's a shaft¹⁴ of light, like there's a little opening there where I can power the entire person through that one little connection. So whether he's a drug dealer or a gun runner or what have you, that if I can just make him human, then that is the goal for me right now.

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SHAPIRO: That's Academy Award winner Mahershala Ali talking with our co-host Kelly McEvers back in October.

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