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LULU GARCIA-NAVARRO, HOST:

Stacy Shapiro of Everett, Wash., came to our New York studios a couple of days ago...

STACY SHAPIRO: Can you hear me OK?

GARCIA-NAVARRO: ...To talk about her son Ethan. He's 16, and he struggles with - well, a lot.

SHAPIRO: Autism, ADHD and ODD and newly, IED, which is intermittent1 explosive disorder2, and anxiety.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: And that tangle3 of disorders4 can sometimes create violent situations for Stacy, for others and for Ethan.

(SOUNDBITE OF DOCUMENTARY, "A DANGEROUS SON")

ETHAN: If only there was a lifeguard who could help me try to control myself because they save everyone, even when they drown.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: A new HBO documentary "A Dangerous Son" follows Stacy and two other families as each desperately5 seeks treatment, a lifeguard for a child with behavioral disorders. Director Liz Garbus was also in the studio. In the film's opening scene, Stacy is driving Ethan, then age 10, and her younger daughter when Ethan lashes6 out.

SHAPIRO: What you saw in the car - it was a daily occurrence. Sometimes multiple, directly towards my daughter or myself mostly, but anybody who might have, you know, gotten under his skin for whatever the reason.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: Sort of hitting and shouting and...

SHAPIRO: Yes. And it was really difficult because people would constantly look at me and try to judge me or think they could do a better job or tell me all the reasons why he's probably like that. But they weren't in my shoes, and there was very little I could do. It got to such a point where I knew I was doing the wrong thing at times, like, giving in. But I was too scared not to because I physically7 and mentally couldn't handle the aftermath of what would happen if I didn't.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: And you struggled to get him help. And one of the - he ended up going to a residential8 facility, but there aren't that many beds in most states. I mean, there just aren't the places to give people the help they need.

SHAPIRO: That's true. And the one that he went to, which is featured in the film - it wasn't the greatest experience. In fact, I was hoping for much more when he came out. I remember saying to them at one point, please tell me if my son needs to be somewhere else. If it's just that you can't keep him longer because I don't feel safe and I don't think that he is ready to come home. And they, like, would not - they wouldn't say that either. But he was still having violent behaviors before he left there. So I felt, like, OK, his time is up, and he has to go, more than, he's ready to go home, but that's the story you're feeding me. So I felt a huge injustice9 there, and it was no better when he came home.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: Liz?

LIZ GARBUS: It's a lot.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: It's a lot.

GARBUS: Yeah, and Stacy is sitting - I mean, you know, as soon as she starts talking, her eyes are welling up with tears. There's an enormous weight on one person. It's a lot, and that's why we made the film.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: Yeah, tell me. Tell me why you made the film.

GARBUS: Rehabilitation10 in this country is something that is very expensive, but the costs of not doing it are worse. And so that's why we made the film. You listen to Stacy - she loves her son. She loves her other children. She's being put in a nearly impossible situation. The beds aren't there. We also talk in the film about a state senator...

GARCIA-NAVARRO: Creigh Deeds in Virginia.

GARBUS: ...Whose son was mentally ill, was threatening to hurt himself, hurt his father. This is a state senator - couldn't get a bed for his child when his child was in crisis. And his child ended up shooting him and taking his own life. And I'll just say one more thing we say in the film - and it's important to foreground all of this with - is that, you know, children with mental health issues are much more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators of violence. And, you know, of course, the greater danger than them hurting anybody on the outside is them hurting themselves or those around them. So the outliers are these stories that are in the news. That doesn't make it OK to not discuss the situations that Stacy and the other mothers in the film find themselves in.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: Stacy, what advice do you have for parents who might have children dealing11 with similar issues to Ethan?

SHAPIRO: Well, one thing I would say because I have met quite a few people - unfortunately, I don't know that they're in denial. But if you suspect something, please don't wait. Get the help, especially because there are so many kids now being diagnosed that the wait lists are so long because the earlier the intervention12 starts, the better. And also, if they do have severe behaviors, please don't be afraid to get your local law enforcement involved. I know it seems extreme. But for me, Ethan has never gone to jail. But just having them there had, A, helped de-escalate him and, sadly, did create the kind of paper trail I needed when he got older, and things got worse, when I had to take bigger action - that they could see that this was an ongoing13 problem, and it didn't just start.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: What do you think, Liz, needs to happen to help kids like the ones in your film?

GARBUS: You know, the involvement of law enforcement, you know, obviously, in Stacy's case was a positive. In many other cases, it's been a negative. So it's definitely not a cure-all. I mean, what - you know, it would be much better if there was a number to call in which, you know, there was a SWAT team of medical professionals who would come in rather than police officers. You know, of course, if you're an African-American family calling, the police officers won't always go the same way it would in Stacy's case. I mean, and that's a reality for families of color. So, I mean, I think that, you know, one thing - isolation14 is terrible. So destigmatizing families like Stacy's who are going through this and seeing how hard they're trying is really important. And then, you know, on state levels, there need to be more beds available, and we need to have crisis prevention for these families.

SHAPIRO: And I also want to add, find a network like Facebook groups or other people because that support - it's vital, especially when you feel like you're alone. And it is a lonely, lonely place to be to be this kind of mom.

GARBUS: Bringing it out into the sunlight into the daylight and not keeping it hidden away people and feeling ashamed.

SHAPIRO: And I don't think they should have to feel ashamed.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: Well, you both have done that. That's Liz Garbus and Stacy Shapiro. The documentary is "A Dangerous Son." And it debuts15 on HBO on Monday. Thank you so much.

GARBUS: Thank you for having us.

SHAPIRO: Yes, thank you very much. I very much appreciated the opportunity to speak with you.


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1 intermittent ebCzV     
adj.间歇的,断断续续的
参考例句:
  • Did you hear the intermittent sound outside?你听见外面时断时续的声音了吗?
  • In the daytime intermittent rains freshened all the earth.白天里,时断时续地下着雨,使整个大地都生气勃勃了。
2 disorder Et1x4     
n.紊乱,混乱;骚动,骚乱;疾病,失调
参考例句:
  • When returning back,he discovered the room to be in disorder.回家后,他发现屋子里乱七八糟。
  • It contained a vast number of letters in great disorder.里面七零八落地装着许多信件。
3 tangle yIQzn     
n.纠缠;缠结;混乱;v.(使)缠绕;变乱
参考例句:
  • I shouldn't tangle with Peter.He is bigger than me.我不应该与彼特吵架。他的块头比我大。
  • If I were you, I wouldn't tangle with them.我要是你,我就不跟他们争吵。
4 disorders 6e49dcafe3638183c823d3aa5b12b010     
n.混乱( disorder的名词复数 );凌乱;骚乱;(身心、机能)失调
参考例句:
  • Reports of anorexia and other eating disorders are on the increase. 据报告,厌食症和其他饮食方面的功能紊乱发生率正在不断增长。 来自《简明英汉词典》
  • The announcement led to violent civil disorders. 这项宣布引起剧烈的骚乱。 来自《简明英汉词典》
5 desperately cu7znp     
adv.极度渴望地,绝望地,孤注一掷地
参考例句:
  • He was desperately seeking a way to see her again.他正拼命想办法再见她一面。
  • He longed desperately to be back at home.他非常渴望回家。
6 lashes e2e13f8d3a7c0021226bb2f94d6a15ec     
n.鞭挞( lash的名词复数 );鞭子;突然猛烈的一击;急速挥动v.鞭打( lash的第三人称单数 );煽动;紧系;怒斥
参考例句:
  • Mother always lashes out food for the children's party. 孩子们聚会时,母亲总是给他们许多吃的。 来自《简明英汉词典》
  • Never walk behind a horse in case it lashes out. 绝对不要跟在马后面,以防它突然猛踢。 来自《简明英汉词典》
7 physically iNix5     
adj.物质上,体格上,身体上,按自然规律
参考例句:
  • He was out of sorts physically,as well as disordered mentally.他浑身不舒服,心绪也很乱。
  • Every time I think about it I feel physically sick.一想起那件事我就感到极恶心。
8 residential kkrzY3     
adj.提供住宿的;居住的;住宅的
参考例句:
  • The mayor inspected the residential section of the city.市长视察了该市的住宅区。
  • The residential blocks were integrated with the rest of the college.住宿区与学院其他部分结合在了一起。
9 injustice O45yL     
n.非正义,不公正,不公平,侵犯(别人的)权利
参考例句:
  • They complained of injustice in the way they had been treated.他们抱怨受到不公平的对待。
  • All his life he has been struggling against injustice.他一生都在与不公正现象作斗争。
10 rehabilitation 8Vcxv     
n.康复,悔过自新,修复,复兴,复职,复位
参考例句:
  • He's booked himself into a rehabilitation clinic.他自己联系了一家康复诊所。
  • No one can really make me rehabilitation of injuries.已经没有人可以真正令我的伤康复了。
11 dealing NvjzWP     
n.经商方法,待人态度
参考例句:
  • This store has an excellent reputation for fair dealing.该商店因买卖公道而享有极高的声誉。
  • His fair dealing earned our confidence.他的诚实的行为获得我们的信任。
12 intervention e5sxZ     
n.介入,干涉,干预
参考例句:
  • The government's intervention in this dispute will not help.政府对这场争论的干预不会起作用。
  • Many people felt he would be hostile to the idea of foreign intervention.许多人觉得他会反对外来干预。
13 ongoing 6RvzT     
adj.进行中的,前进的
参考例句:
  • The problem is ongoing.这个问题尚未解决。
  • The issues raised in the report relate directly to Age Concern's ongoing work in this area.报告中提出的问题与“关心老人”组织在这方面正在做的工作有直接的关系。
14 isolation 7qMzTS     
n.隔离,孤立,分解,分离
参考例句:
  • The millionaire lived in complete isolation from the outside world.这位富翁过着与世隔绝的生活。
  • He retired and lived in relative isolation.他退休后,生活比较孤寂。
15 debuts ad4f62355efee940a2b4c02dbdd70570     
演员首次演出( debut的名词复数 )
参考例句:
  • He never really debuts the idea of taking money from his parents any longer. 他从此就再也没有认真起过向父母要钱的念头。
  • This young soprano debuts next month at the metropolitan opera. 这位年轻的女高音歌唱家下个月将在纽约大都会歌剧院举行首演。

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