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MARY LOUISE KELLY, HOST:

In New York yesterday, a grand jury indicted1 Harvey Weinstein on charges of first- and third-degree rape2 and a first-degree criminal sex act. This is the latest twist in the downfall of a man who once towered over Hollywood and who would likely still be making movies had more than 80 women not come forward to tell their stories. One of the first to do so was the actress Rosanna Arquette. You know her from "Pulp3 Fiction" and "Desperately4 Seeking Susan" and so many other roles. She joins us now from New York. And needless to say, what you're going to hear is a frank and graphic5 discussion.

Rosanna Arquette, welcome.

ROSANNA ARQUETTE: Thank you. I'm happy to be here.

KELLY: I'm glad to have you here. I read something you said - that you didn't sleep a wink6 for two nights last week, the two nights in the run-up to Harvey Weinstein's arrest.

ARQUETTE: I don't think any of us did.

KELLY: Yeah. What was that like, I mean, watching him surrender to police in Manhattan?

ARQUETTE: Oh, my gosh, just even talking about it right now - it's - it really is emotional because I was on the phone with many, many of the women. All of us, especially the women that were raped7, have so much trauma8. But what we're witnessing - this paradigm9 shift - and watching him walk out with his smile - little, smirky10 smile was, you know - OK, what's going on? But for all of us, it's an important moment.

KELLY: And what's that conversation been like? Is the mood among you and other women who've come forward - is it celebration? Does this feel like vindication11 or what?

ARQUETTE: Well, it's a long time coming, and I don't know if any of us really felt that we would see this day. But I really applaud Cyrus Vance.

KELLY: This is the Manhattan DA.

ARQUETTE: The Manhattan DA Cyrus Vance - and there are a lot more women. And a lot of lives and careers have been destroyed.

KELLY: Did you just suggest that - are you in touch with other women who maybe have not come forward publicly yet who may still be considering doing so?

ARQUETTE: There are other women that haven't come forward, and maybe they'll feel safer to be able to do that now. You know, maybe they don't want to go through this 'cause it's certainly not fun. But what has happened is all of us as women I think are holding each other's hands across the world, and it's time to hold men accountable for their actions.

KELLY: Yeah. I do want people to understand what you alleged12 Harvey Weinstein did to you. This was in the early '90s.

ARQUETTE: Yes.

KELLY: And you were supposed to meet him for...

ARQUETTE: For a film that he wanted me to do. And he had the new script, was excited about it, was supposed to have dinner with him.

KELLY: This was at Beverly Hills Hotel.

ARQUETTE: Beverly Hills Hotel - I arrive. And they said, Mr. Weinstein will see you upstairs. And I thought, oh, OK, like, he probably has the penthouse suite13 apartment, you know...

KELLY: Yeah.

ARQUETTE: ...But immediately was, like, danger. Like, you - heart race - the vibe didn't feel right. I arrive. He has his white bathrobe on. Rosanna, I can't move my neck. I just can't move my neck. I can't move it. And I was like, oh, oh, I have this amazing masseuse. I have a chiropractor. No, no, no, no, no, Rosanna - and grabs my hand and, you know - erect15. I pull it away. He goes...

KELLY: He tried to put your hand...

ARQUETTE: Yeah.

KELLY: ...On his erect penis.

ARQUETTE: And he said, Rosanna, you're making a very big mistake. Look what I've done for - and he mentioned two other actresses - famous actress, Oscar-winning actress and a very, very famous model. And I said, I'll never be that girl. And I left, got down in the elevator. By the time I got to the bottom of - in the lobby, I had a completely different career (laughter).

KELLY: In what way? What do you mean?

ARQUETTE: I think that things just started falling apart because...

KELLY: You're saying - what? - because he...

ARQUETTE: Work or...

KELLY: ...Followed through...

ARQUETTE: I don't...

KELLY: ...You say, on this threat and blacklisted you, or...

ARQUETTE: I think that he just - just, like, at a dinner - like, oh, well, I heard she's - oh, she's a pain in the ass14. You just never know. Do I have proof that it was Harvey? The only proof I have is that I was spied on. There's a dossier on me. There's - why?

KELLY: I have to ask 'cause one of the roles for which you are most famous was "Pulp Fiction," which Harvey Weinstein produced.

ARQUETTE: Later, about maybe two years...

KELLY: Later. I mean, this was after the encounter in Beverly Hills.

ARQUETTE: That was - it was after the encounter, yep. It was.

KELLY: Why would you take a role working with him?

ARQUETTE: Because it was a big movie with - Quentin Tarantino asked me to do it. You want to work. You wanted to work with a great director who directed "Reservoir Dogs." And he had this new movie. And, you know, I met him, and he wanted me to do it. And how do I feel about that? Would I do it differently now? I mean, I was a lot younger and not as - you know, as wise as I am now. I probably would have - and what I know now, I would have done it differently.

KELLY: I was going to ask, yeah.

ARQUETTE: At the time, did I not know?

KELLY: I mean, asking in as non-judgmental a way as it is possible to ask, do you wish you'd come forward sooner?

ARQUETTE: Absolutely, but I know - look at what happened to - Rose McGowan was the first person, and she did. And they make a deal with her to keep her mouth shut. And there were a lot of people that were paid off to keep their mouth shut. I didn't ever have anything like that. I wasn't ever paid off to keep my mouth shut. And frankly16, I didn't keep my mouth shut. And I did tell people. And I'm sure it got back to him that I was talking. And I never stopped myself from talking about it. I told people.

KELLY: You used the words not fun in describing the experience of coming forward. And I'm curious how people have reacted to you. Do you feel like you're being - you have been treated differently since coming forward?

ARQUETTE: There's a community of women - like I've said, we're all across the world, a link arm-in-arm, hand-in-hand - and boys - young boys who've been molested17 and raped. And I feel like we're an energetic chain that's - of a support system. So in that arena18, it's been incredibly supportive. I wouldn't say it is so much in Hollywood. I mean, I don't have an agent (laughter). I think I'm still blackballed. But I continue to work and do my thing. And I always have. And it's certainly not helped my career.

KELLY: Let me ask you this. Harvey Weinstein, we should note, denies the charges. His lawyer says he's going to fight this.

ARQUETTE: Good luck. Good luck.

KELLY: Would you testify when and if he goes to trial?

ARQUETTE: I'll testify, but I don't know if - I think for me, it's, like, why did you spy on me? Why did you make my life difficult? Why is there a dossier on me? Why? It's hard because I'm - I haven't pressed any charges yet. I haven't done anything because, you know, I was trying to get, you know, the date, the time, the - you know, do you have any records of that meeting? And no, it's all - at this point, I don't know.

KELLY: You said you haven't pressed charges yet. You're not closing that door.

ARQUETTE: Yeah. I don't know. I mean, for me, many attorneys have reached out to me. There's a case there if I want. For me right now, the most important thing - I could burst into tears - is not - I am, like, small potatoes compared to the women that have been raped and brutalized by this man. And I'm standing19 back in support of them. That's the most important thing for me at this point.

KELLY: That is the actress Rosanna Arquette, one of the women who first accused Harvey Weinstein and helped launch the #MeToo movement. Rosanna Arquette, thank you.

ARQUETTE: Thank you so much. I have something to say. Can we say this?

KELLY: Mmm hmm.

ARQUETTE: This is not a witch hunt. This is not a witch hunt. This is men who have done really horrible things and gotten away with it for years. And we're - it's time to be held accountable for these past actions that money and power were able to hide their sick behavior. And that is what it's all about - no more. We say no more.

KELLY: Thank you.

ARQUETTE: Thank you.


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1 indicted 4fe8f0223a4e14ee670547b1a8076e20     
控告,起诉( indict的过去式和过去分词 )
参考例句:
  • The senator was indicted for murder. 那位参议员被控犯谋杀罪。
  • He was indicted by a grand jury on two counts of murder. 他被大陪审团以两项谋杀罪名起诉。
2 rape PAQzh     
n.抢夺,掠夺,强奸;vt.掠夺,抢夺,强奸
参考例句:
  • The rape of the countryside had a profound ravage on them.对乡村的掠夺给他们造成严重创伤。
  • He was brought to court and charged with rape.他被带到法庭并被指控犯有强奸罪。
3 pulp Qt4y9     
n.果肉,纸浆;v.化成纸浆,除去...果肉,制成纸浆
参考例句:
  • The pulp of this watermelon is too spongy.这西瓜瓤儿太肉了。
  • The company manufactures pulp and paper products.这个公司制造纸浆和纸产品。
4 desperately cu7znp     
adv.极度渴望地,绝望地,孤注一掷地
参考例句:
  • He was desperately seeking a way to see her again.他正拼命想办法再见她一面。
  • He longed desperately to be back at home.他非常渴望回家。
5 graphic Aedz7     
adj.生动的,形象的,绘画的,文字的,图表的
参考例句:
  • The book gave a graphic description of the war.这本书生动地描述了战争的情况。
  • Distinguish important text items in lists with graphic icons.用图标来区分重要的文本项。
6 wink 4MGz3     
n.眨眼,使眼色,瞬间;v.眨眼,使眼色,闪烁
参考例句:
  • He tipped me the wink not to buy at that price.他眨眼暗示我按那个价格就不要买。
  • The satellite disappeared in a wink.瞬息之间,那颗卫星就消失了。
7 raped 7a6e3e7dd30eb1e3b61716af0e54d4a2     
v.以暴力夺取,强夺( rape的过去式和过去分词 );强奸
参考例句:
  • A young woman was brutally raped in her own home. 一名年轻女子在自己家中惨遭强暴。 来自辞典例句
  • We got stick together, or we will be having our women raped. 我们得团结一致,不然我们的妻女就会遭到蹂躏。 来自辞典例句
8 trauma TJIzJ     
n.外伤,精神创伤
参考例句:
  • Counselling is helping him work through this trauma.心理辅导正帮助他面对痛苦。
  • The phobia may have its root in a childhood trauma.恐惧症可能源于童年时期的创伤。
9 paradigm c48zJ     
n.例子,模范,词形变化表
参考例句:
  • He had become the paradigm of the successful man. 他已经成为成功人士的典范。
  • Moreover,the results of this research can be the new learning paradigm for digital design studios.除此之外,本研究的研究成果也可以为数位设计课程建立一个新的学习范例。
10 smirky smirky     
adj.假笑的,傻笑的,得意地笑的
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11 vindication 1LpzF     
n.洗冤,证实
参考例句:
  • There is much to be said in vindication of his claim.有很多理由可以提出来为他的要求作辩护。
  • The result was a vindication of all our efforts.这一结果表明我们的一切努力是必要的。
12 alleged gzaz3i     
a.被指控的,嫌疑的
参考例句:
  • It was alleged that he had taken bribes while in office. 他被指称在任时收受贿赂。
  • alleged irregularities in the election campaign 被指称竞选运动中的不正当行为
13 suite MsMwB     
n.一套(家具);套房;随从人员
参考例句:
  • She has a suite of rooms in the hotel.她在那家旅馆有一套房间。
  • That is a nice suite of furniture.那套家具很不错。
14 ass qvyzK     
n.驴;傻瓜,蠢笨的人
参考例句:
  • He is not an ass as they make him.他不象大家猜想的那样笨。
  • An ass endures his burden but not more than his burden.驴能负重但不能超过它能力所负担的。
15 erect 4iLzm     
n./v.树立,建立,使竖立;adj.直立的,垂直的
参考例句:
  • She held her head erect and her back straight.她昂着头,把背挺得笔直。
  • Soldiers are trained to stand erect.士兵们训练站得笔直。
16 frankly fsXzcf     
adv.坦白地,直率地;坦率地说
参考例句:
  • To speak frankly, I don't like the idea at all.老实说,我一点也不赞成这个主意。
  • Frankly speaking, I'm not opposed to reform.坦率地说,我不反对改革。
17 molested 8f5dc599e4a1e77b1bcd0dfd65265f28     
v.骚扰( molest的过去式和过去分词 );干扰;调戏;猥亵
参考例句:
  • The bigger children in the neighborhood molested the younger ones. 邻居家的大孩子欺负小孩子。 来自《简明英汉词典》
  • He molested children and was sent to jail. 他猥亵儿童,进了监狱。 来自《简明英汉词典》
18 arena Yv4zd     
n.竞技场,运动场所;竞争场所,舞台
参考例句:
  • She entered the political arena at the age of 25. 她25岁进入政界。
  • He had not an adequate arena for the exercise of his talents.他没有充分发挥其才能的场所。
19 standing 2hCzgo     
n.持续,地位;adj.永久的,不动的,直立的,不流动的
参考例句:
  • After the earthquake only a few houses were left standing.地震过后只有几幢房屋还立着。
  • They're standing out against any change in the law.他们坚决反对对法律做任何修改。

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