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美国国家公共电台 NPR 'This Is A Moment, Honey': 'Queer Eye' Gurus Jonathan And Antoni On The Show's Magic

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DAVID GREENE, HOST:

All right, grab the tissues because the Fab Five are back. "Queer Eye" on Netflix is a makeover show where five gay men with different areas of expertise1 try to change the life of one person, a person they refer to as a hero. It's based on the Bravo show "Queer Eye For The Straight Guy," but the Netflix series has moved beyond the original mandate2. One hero this season is a woman named Tammye Hicks.

(SOUNDBITE OF TV SHOW, "QUEER EYE")

TAN FRANCE: For everything you do for the community, my gosh, you deserve some self-care.

TAMMYE HICKS: And you're going to make me look like a diva?

FRANCE: Oh, my gosh. You don't...

BOBBY BERK: Just like...

FRANCE: Mama, you don't even know.

HICKS: Oh, diva. Oh, diva.

FRANCE: You don't even know.

HICKS: Are you serious?

FRANCE: Yeah.

GREENE: All right, so two of the cast, Antoni Porowski and Jonathan Van Ness, joined me from our studios in New York. And I asked Jonathan why he thinks people have been flocking to the show. He says it has something to do with the current political climate.

JONATHAN VAN NESS: I call it, like, "The British Baking Show" (ph) effect...

GREENE: OK.

(LAUGHTER)

VAN NESS: ...Like, because I watch this show, like, morning, noon and night, all the time. It's like my palate cleanser from the news. You just want to feel good about something. And I think that "Queer Eye" has a little bit of that magic.

GREENE: So it's taking on tough issues head-on but doing it in a way that brings us together and lets us actually tackle stuff together.

ANTONI POROWSKI: And I think we don't do it in a pushy3 way. I mean, it's not something where we come in and we're like, we need to talk about your Trump4 banner on your front lawn.

GREENE: Now, one thing you notice is that it's not just the heroes who show their vulnerability. So does the cast. And in Tammye Hicks' episode, Antoni reacted to hearing how Tammye initially5 disapproved6 of her son being gay because of her religion but later came to terms with it.

(SOUNDBITE OF TV SHOW, "QUEER EYE")

POROWSKI: She saw the individual. She saw the person that her son is, and she changed her mind. She says that it was a religious experience, but she made that choice. Not all parents do that.

GREENE: And I asked Antoni what he meant.

POROWSKI: That was really an episode where I think the tables were turned. With Tammye, it was really switched. And I feel like she called us out on a lot of our stuff and really brought a lot of things to light. I'll kind of leave it as - I've had a problematic relationship growing up with my parents. Things are a lot better right now, but it's definitely been a work in progress. And unconditional7 love from a parent is not something that I take for granted.

And to see somebody like Tammye who is so embedded8 in her religion - it's something that's very important to her - and was able to realize it wasn't the Bible, it wasn't religion. It was the way that she chose to look at her son being gay and how he was or wasn't accepted into the church. Whenever I see a parent showing unconditional love for their child, I have a very soft spot for all the moms out there.

GREENE: Was there any discussion in the edit about, like, how much you wanted that to be in there? I mean, presumably...

POROWSKI: There actually...

GREENE: ...You know, your family would, you know, see this.

POROWSKI: Yeah, there was. With me - it's tricky9 because it's an opportunity to have people relate. But at the same time, I do want to try to maintain some kind of, like, privacy and respect for my family. Families are tricky. I come from a really dysfunctional one. I haven't shied away from saying that. But I still have love for every single one of them. And it's something that I think we're working on, and everyone's doing it in their own way. And it's something that I'm learning in an exponential way. It's this - like, the growth curve is very steep. But I'm kind of figuring it out. And - yeah.

GREENE: Last season, you guys made over a gay man. And this new season, two of your heroes, as you call them, are "Queer Eye" firsts, I think. One is a transgender man. Another is a woman. Was it important to you guys to break the mold?

VAN NESS: Yes. I think inclusivity and getting to spread the love as far and wide as possible was something that was, like, really important to us. Tammye's story especially - like, so much of what she struggles with, so many moms and women and men, actually, struggle with - nurturing10 other people to a point where you lost sight of, like, taking care of yourself and equating11 self-care with selfishness. And so I was really excited for Tammye for that because it's like that whole airplane adage12. Like, you have to put your little mask on first because if your little mask isn't on, like, how are you going to help me get my mask on?

POROWSKI: Right.

GREENE: (Laughter) Then you can't help the children put their masks on.

VAN NESS: Exactly.

POROWSKI: I love that adage.

VAN NESS: And so in, like, giving so much of yourself all the time, like, you won't have much left to give if you don't nurture13 yourself a little bit. And I think most of us want to do the best that we can. And I think that a lot of us struggle with people-pleasing - I know I do. And so sometimes, you know, saying like - no, I'm going to do this for myself - is, like, very difficult.

GREENE: Are you guys part of a cultural moment?

VAN NESS: Yes, it does feel like we're having, like, a cultural moment. Being in a group of people that has, like, become known for helping14 people and, like, wanting to lift people up and, like, be kind and be loving, none of us are really saying that we're, like, all the way experts. Like, I think that we're just as much students and just as much learning as anyone else. And that is, like, such a fun opportunity to, like, say like - hey, I've been doing this for a long time, but I don't know everything. But I'd like to, like, teach you what I know so far. And, like, let's go on this little journey together. And like, that feels like a little cultural moment that's different.

GREENE: OK. I need you guys to be honest before I let you go. Do you really get along, the five of you, as well as it seems? I mean, you, like, squeezed into a pickup15 truck...

POROWSKI: We're holding hands as we speak.

GREENE: ...Driving everywhere. Really?

VAN NESS: Well, no - well, OK, I'll get honest.

GREENE: OK, great.

VAN NESS: I'm going to get so honest right now.

GREENE: You hate each other is what you're about to tell me.

VAN NESS: No, no - no, actually we really do love each other. I would say the only time when, unequivocally, like, the four of my little baby cast mates just really are, like - they're just not here for me. And when it's 7 in the morning or, like, 6:45 and I have had my...

POROWSKI: Just for the record, he's talking about me specifically because he just gave me a little...

VAN NESS: And I've had like...

GREENE: OK (laughter).

VAN NESS: And I've had my second venti, honey. Sometimes I'll get a little bit vocal16. I might start scream-cry-singing a little bit of Kelly Clarkson at 6:45 a.m. And I don't think that's asking too much for your friends to just listen to your Kelly Clarkson song and just let you have your moment and not...

POROWSKI: You just wake up more quickly than I do. And it takes me time.

VAN NESS: Not only do they shut me down, but they have the nerve to, like, jump like they're scared of my voice because, like, if I'm right behind your head and start singing and you're not ready for it...

POROWSKI: Again, read they as Antoni. It was one incident.

VAN NESS: It happened one time, and I'm not over it.

POROWSKI: It was one time. I was sitting in the front seat, and he started busting17 out Kelly Clarkson. And I just did this thing with my shoulders where I, like, lifted them and I crunched18 a little.

VAN NESS: OK. First of all...

POROWSKI: And he reminds me to this day - to this day.

VAN NESS: And also, can I just tell you that it was that "Hamilton" remix of "It's Quiet Uptown" that I was singing?

POROWSKI: Oh, that's what it was.

VAN NESS: And it was gorgeous. It's so pretty.

GREENE: (Laughter).

POROWSKI: It wasn't not gorgeous. But some of us just need a little more time to wake up.

VAN NESS: I was on pitch, honey.

GREENE: (Laughter).

VAN NESS: But no, truthfully, we really do love each other (laughter). And it feels universal between the five of us. It's like, no one's going to say something about one of my brothers in front of me that, like, I don't like.

POROWSKI: Right.

VAN NESS: And, you know, not like in, like, a mean, like, diva way but, like, this is my family, and, like - they're just my family. And we're really lucky for this.

POROWSKI: What we do on the show is kind of what we do in real life. It's really, like - it's all support, all positivity.

VAN NESS: Unless it's 6:45 in the morning and I had, like, three coffees and "The Hamilton Mixtape" is on and like in someone's - yeah.

POROWSKI: One time - it happened one time.

VAN NESS: It was just - but for the most part, we're very much love.

GREENE: Just the once. It was just once.

POROWSKI: It's good that you don't hold resentments19.

VAN NESS: She doesn't.

POROWSKI: That's what I like about you.

GREENE: Oh, guys, this has been really fun.

VAN NESS: Thanks for having us.

POROWSKI: Thanks for having us.

GREENE: Best of luck with the second season. Yeah, let's talk again sometime.

VAN NESS: Yay.

POROWSKI: Thank you.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "ALL THINGS (JUST KEEP GETTING BETTER)")

BETTY WHO: (Singing) Oh, yeah. Things keep getting better. Things keep getting better.

GREENE: Two members of the "Queer Eye" cast, Jonathan Van Ness and Antoni Porowski. Season 2 is on Netflix right now.


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1 expertise fmTx0     
n.专门知识(或技能等),专长
参考例句:
  • We were amazed at his expertise on the ski slopes.他斜坡滑雪的技能使我们赞叹不已。
  • You really have the technical expertise in a new breakthrough.让你真正在专业技术上有一个全新的突破。
2 mandate sj9yz     
n.托管地;命令,指示
参考例句:
  • The President had a clear mandate to end the war.总统得到明确的授权结束那场战争。
  • The General Election gave him no such mandate.大选并未授予他这种权力。
3 pushy tSix8     
adj.固执己见的,一意孤行的
参考例句:
  • But she insisted and was very pushy.但她一直坚持,而且很急于求成。
  • He made himself unpopular by being so pushy.他特别喜欢出风头,所以人缘不好。
4 trump LU1zK     
n.王牌,法宝;v.打出王牌,吹喇叭
参考例句:
  • He was never able to trump up the courage to have a showdown.他始终鼓不起勇气摊牌。
  • The coach saved his star player for a trump card.教练保留他的明星选手,作为他的王牌。
5 initially 273xZ     
adv.最初,开始
参考例句:
  • The ban was initially opposed by the US.这一禁令首先遭到美国的反对。
  • Feathers initially developed from insect scales.羽毛最初由昆虫的翅瓣演化而来。
6 disapproved 3ee9b7bf3f16130a59cb22aafdea92d0     
v.不赞成( disapprove的过去式和过去分词 )
参考例句:
  • My parents disapproved of my marriage. 我父母不赞成我的婚事。 来自《简明英汉词典》
  • She disapproved of her son's indiscriminate television viewing. 她不赞成儿子不加选择地收看电视。 来自《简明英汉词典》
7 unconditional plcwS     
adj.无条件的,无限制的,绝对的
参考例句:
  • The victorious army demanded unconditional surrender.胜方要求敌人无条件投降。
  • My love for all my children is unconditional.我对自己所有孩子的爱都是无条件的。
8 embedded lt9ztS     
a.扎牢的
参考例句:
  • an operation to remove glass that was embedded in his leg 取出扎入他腿部玻璃的手术
  • He has embedded his name in the minds of millions of people. 他的名字铭刻在数百万人民心中。
9 tricky 9fCzyd     
adj.狡猾的,奸诈的;(工作等)棘手的,微妙的
参考例句:
  • I'm in a rather tricky position.Can you help me out?我的处境很棘手,你能帮我吗?
  • He avoided this tricky question and talked in generalities.他回避了这个非常微妙的问题,只做了个笼统的表述。
10 nurturing d35e8f9c6b6b0f1c54ced7de730a6241     
养育( nurture的现在分词 ); 培育; 滋长; 助长
参考例句:
  • These delicate plants need careful nurturing. 这些幼嫩的植物需要精心培育。
  • The modern conservatory is not an environment for nurturing plants. 这个现代化温室的环境不适合培育植物。
11 equating 07d40297d19f627f0452d3a051f97d50     
v.认为某事物(与另一事物)相等或相仿( equate的现在分词 );相当于;等于;把(一事物) 和(另一事物)等同看待
参考例句:
  • [ Ray ] I definitely started equating crossword puzzles with songwriting. 我已经干脆开始把字谜游戏等同于歌曲写作了。 来自电影对白
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12 adage koSyd     
n.格言,古训
参考例句:
  • But the old adage that men grow into office has not proved true in my experience.但是,根据我的经验,人们所谓的工作岗位造就人材这句古话并不正确。
  • Her experience lends credence to the adage " We live and learn!"她的经验印证了一句格言: 活到老,学到老!
13 nurture K5sz3     
n.养育,照顾,教育;滋养,营养品;vt.养育,给与营养物,教养,扶持
参考例句:
  • The tree grows well in his nurture.在他的培育下这棵树长得很好。
  • The two sisters had received very different nurture.这俩个姊妹接受过极不同的教育。
14 helping 2rGzDc     
n.食物的一份&adj.帮助人的,辅助的
参考例句:
  • The poor children regularly pony up for a second helping of my hamburger. 那些可怜的孩子们总是要求我把我的汉堡包再给他们一份。
  • By doing this, they may at times be helping to restore competition. 这样一来, 他在某些时候,有助于竞争的加强。
15 pickup ANkxA     
n.拾起,获得
参考例句:
  • I would love to trade this car for a pickup truck.我愿意用这辆汽车换一辆小型轻便卡车。||The luck guy is a choice pickup for the girls.那位幸运的男孩是女孩子们想勾搭上的人。
16 vocal vhOwA     
adj.直言不讳的;嗓音的;n.[pl.]声乐节目
参考例句:
  • The tongue is a vocal organ.舌头是一个发音器官。
  • Public opinion at last became vocal.终于舆论哗然。
17 busting 88d2f3c005eecd70faf8139b696e48c7     
打破,打碎( bust的现在分词 ); 突击搜查(或搜捕); (使)降级,降低军阶
参考例句:
  • Jim and his wife were busting up again yesterday. 吉姆和他的妻子昨天又吵架了。
  • He figured she was busting his chops, but it was all true. 他以为她在捉弄他,其实完全是真的。
18 crunched adc2876f632a087c0c8d7d68ab7543dc     
v.嘎吱嘎吱地咬嚼( crunch的过去式和过去分词 );嘎吱作响;(快速大量地)处理信息;数字捣弄
参考例句:
  • Our feet crunched on the frozen snow. 我们的脚嘎吱嘎吱地踩在冻雪上。 来自《简明英汉词典》
  • He closed his jaws on the bones and crunched. 他咬紧骨头,使劲地嚼。 来自英汉文学 - 热爱生命
19 resentments 4e6d4b541f5fd83064d41eea9a6dec89     
(因受虐待而)愤恨,不满,怨恨( resentment的名词复数 )
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  • He could never transcend his resentments and his complexes. 他从来不能把他的怨恨和感情上的症结置之度外。
  • These local resentments burst into open revolt. 地方性反感变成公开暴动。

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