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Actor Diego Luna On The 'Awakening1' Around Mexico's Presidential Election

LULU GARCIA-NAVARRO, HOST:

Mexican actor Diego Luna first shot to fame in the United States after 2001's "Y Tu Mama Tambien." Since then, he's starred in a handful of blockbusters, including recently "Rogue2 One." And he's about to play the leader of a drug cartel in the upcoming season of Netflix's "Narcos." He could have happily continued to live a successful life in Hollywood, but he missed Mexico.

DIEGO LUNA: I have all my love stories here. I grew up here. I decided3 to do theater here. But most importantly, I have kids. And I have to say, there's something quite interesting in living this time of their lives in Mexico versus4 the States.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: So four years ago, he came home. He loves it here and says there's a richness he feels in Mexico City. And as a political activist5, he sees himself as someone who has a voice on both sides of the border.

LUNA: Right now I feel that I'm useful here and that I want my kids seeing his dad getting involved with the place he lives in.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: I met Diego Luna at a cafe near his kids' school in Mexico City. And that day, the crisis of migrant families was very much on his mind.

LUNA: It's quite painful to see what's happening these days. The indifference6 around a community that is suffering so much, you know? Yeah, that indifference, that lack of compassion7, you know? I mean, even though there is starting now a reaction of the conditions of all these kids today, I woke up in a country that wasn't completely - (speaking Spanish).

GARCIA-NAVARRO: Indignant.

LUNA: Indignant?

GARCIA-NAVARRO: Yeah.

LUNA: I didn't wake up in a country that was completely indignant about this issue, you know? The government was still celebrating the triumph of Mexico in the World Cup in their Twitter. It's like, OK, let's - this issue matters this much, OK?

GARCIA-NAVARRO: I used to live in Mexico. I covered it for many years, and it was always surprising to me how little Mexican society values its own migrants that it sends to the United States.

LUNA: And then we now say we care, but we don't give a [expletive] what happens to migrants going through Mexico from Central America trying to get to the States or wanting to stay in Mexico. And the way our government treats them, the stuff they have to go through, the amount of abuse is ridiculous. It's insane. And no one seems to get affected8 by these things. So it's fighting indifference what to me is a priority today, I guess, in every term.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: Indifference here and indifference there, yeah.

LUNA: Indifference. Indifference because we are getting used to this kind of injustice9. There isn't - something I heard recently, you know, but if the rights I have are not the same rights everyone has, then my rights are privileged.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: But I guess what's surprising to me is that you are a person who is privileged. You are someone who has been blessed because of your talent, and you have a lot of success and fame. So what draws you to speak out on these issues?

LUNA: It's my location. I think it's all about my father. It's what I saw my father doing. I remember my father always reading the newspaper and commenting on what was there and where - how important was that debate that could happen and, you know - after lunch in the house - how important it was to engage with the issues that apparently10 are not happening to you. But it also is this country because the stuff you see, you see beautiful stuff next to the most horrible image. And you wanna do something because it's provocative11. This city, this country has that kind of duality, you know, that - yeah.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: So tell me about this moment in Mexico for you because we're right ahead of a very important election. But we're also in a moment where you see so much violence in Mexico. There's a lot at stake here.

LUNA: Yeah.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: So what is your view as to where this country's at?

LUNA: Well, I think there is an awakening happening, a social awakening happening from these terrible six years we just lived and a war that has been happening for 12 years since Calderon started to fight the traffickers.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: The drug war, yeah.

LUNA: Yeah. Then we had an earthquake, also, that reminded us how weak our institutions are, all these corruption12 scandals, where we started to get an idea of how much they were stealing from us, you know? And all of these, I think it's creating an awakening. There is a need to say, llevaste, you know, like, enough is enough. And I think the people is already there.

The problem is we are living in a very dangerous country. It's an election that is happening in a country where 114 candidates have been killed. And if you hear that in any civilized13 place, you would say, well, that election can't happen obviously. But in this country, we have normalized violence and we have accepted this is the Mexico we live in.

And because we have this privileged part of society that doesn't have to interact with that violence, and then the others - well, whatever, you know, it's not our issue because it's the war on drugs and because there's a market in the States and it's never gonna stop, so what can we do? I don't believe we have to wait till it happens to us. You know, I still believe believe in stories, and I still think we are - most of us are people that can feel for the others, you know? And I think this election is that one, you know, where people are starting to vote not just for themselves but for the others.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: Well, I have a - this is a fellow Latina. I'm curious about this thing. You've been talking about the violence that Mexico is experiencing, and Mexico isn't unique in that. Obviously it is a problem that we see all over Latin America. And you're in "Narcos", which is a series that Colombians look at and think glorifies14 Pablo Escobar, you know? It's the story that we always see about Latin America, about these very violent figures that are the only thing that people outside of this area sometimes get to see about us. How does that fit into your worldview?

LUNA: I think it's important to understand how did we got here, you know? And I remember when we did "Y Tu Mama Tambien", we - the first time we opened the film in Mexico, we received so many messages going like, but why did you show that Mexico? It's so dirty, that area. Why you didn't go here or there? You were like, because that area is there. And I do think that when you hear a story about how Mexico became such a crucial place in terms of the drug trafficking, it might be important for someone in India to understand what - why are these news about violence and how can you connect with this, you know? And you will see it talks a lot about how much the government has to be in both for this situation to happen. And I think by the end, you go, like, holy [expletive]. So, really, that's how things happen? And if one of every a hundred people watching it decide to go a little deeper and find out what's not being said, I think that'll be good.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: So tell me about your - you have a project called "El Dia Despues", the day after. So explain what that is.

LUNA: It's just a platform that - where we are talking to other citizens. This election is - it's bringing a fracture to society, you know. So what we're doing is we're saying it doesn't matter who you vote for. The next day, we're all going to wake up in the same country. And this country has to include all of us, you know? So we're also putting out videos that explain how this violence raised and how much this violence can become a problem for the next six years of our lives, you know.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: Are you worried?

LUNA: I am. I am. I am worried also because we have to understand that democracy demands of you, your actions, to last for the whole six years, you know. We tend to think that democracy is going to vote and then wait six years to see what happened. And what we're trying to say here is that we have to work every day to bring the change this country needs, otherwise no one's gonna be able to do it, you know. And we have to shape our - the people in power. We have to tell them who we want, how they want them to behave. But to do that, we have to make sure we're behaving the same way, you know. We have to make sure we're consequent with what we're asking.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: They have asked you to be a senator.

LUNA: That's true.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: Do you see yourself ever possibly becoming a politician, having a role politically in this country?

LUNA: No. Well, I mean, I have a role. I have the role of being a citizen, which demands a lot from me. But no, no, no. I don't think so.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: An elected official, you don't see?

LUNA: No, I don't think so. No, no. I think there's a lot that can be done from the perspective of the citizens and a lot that we have to teach them. So I'll be there.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: Diego Luna, actor and activist.

LUNA: (Laughing).

GARCIA-NAVARRO: Muchisima gracias.

LUNA: Gracias a ti.


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1 awakening 9ytzdV     
n.觉醒,醒悟 adj.觉醒中的;唤醒的
参考例句:
  • the awakening of interest in the environment 对环境产生的兴趣
  • People are gradually awakening to their rights. 人们正逐渐意识到自己的权利。
2 rogue qCfzo     
n.流氓;v.游手好闲
参考例句:
  • The little rogue had his grandpa's glasses on.这淘气鬼带上了他祖父的眼镜。
  • They defined him as a rogue.他们确定他为骗子。
3 decided lvqzZd     
adj.决定了的,坚决的;明显的,明确的
参考例句:
  • This gave them a decided advantage over their opponents.这使他们比对手具有明显的优势。
  • There is a decided difference between British and Chinese way of greeting.英国人和中国人打招呼的方式有很明显的区别。
4 versus wi7wU     
prep.以…为对手,对;与…相比之下
参考例句:
  • The big match tonight is England versus Spain.今晚的大赛是英格兰对西班牙。
  • The most exciting game was Harvard versus Yale.最富紧张刺激的球赛是哈佛队对耶鲁队。
5 activist gyAzO     
n.活动分子,积极分子
参考例句:
  • He's been a trade union activist for many years.多年来他一直是工会的积极分子。
  • He is a social activist in our factory.他是我厂的社会活动积极分子。
6 indifference k8DxO     
n.不感兴趣,不关心,冷淡,不在乎
参考例句:
  • I was disappointed by his indifference more than somewhat.他的漠不关心使我很失望。
  • He feigned indifference to criticism of his work.他假装毫不在意别人批评他的作品。
7 compassion 3q2zZ     
n.同情,怜悯
参考例句:
  • He could not help having compassion for the poor creature.他情不自禁地怜悯起那个可怜的人来。
  • Her heart was filled with compassion for the motherless children.她对于没有母亲的孩子们充满了怜悯心。
8 affected TzUzg0     
adj.不自然的,假装的
参考例句:
  • She showed an affected interest in our subject.她假装对我们的课题感到兴趣。
  • His manners are affected.他的态度不自然。
9 injustice O45yL     
n.非正义,不公正,不公平,侵犯(别人的)权利
参考例句:
  • They complained of injustice in the way they had been treated.他们抱怨受到不公平的对待。
  • All his life he has been struggling against injustice.他一生都在与不公正现象作斗争。
10 apparently tMmyQ     
adv.显然地;表面上,似乎
参考例句:
  • An apparently blind alley leads suddenly into an open space.山穷水尽,豁然开朗。
  • He was apparently much surprised at the news.他对那个消息显然感到十分惊异。
11 provocative e0Jzj     
adj.挑衅的,煽动的,刺激的,挑逗的
参考例句:
  • She wore a very provocative dress.她穿了一件非常性感的裙子。
  • His provocative words only fueled the argument further.他的挑衅性讲话只能使争论进一步激化。
12 corruption TzCxn     
n.腐败,堕落,贪污
参考例句:
  • The people asked the government to hit out against corruption and theft.人民要求政府严惩贪污盗窃。
  • The old man reviled against corruption.那老人痛斥了贪污舞弊。
13 civilized UwRzDg     
a.有教养的,文雅的
参考例句:
  • Racism is abhorrent to a civilized society. 文明社会憎恶种族主义。
  • rising crime in our so-called civilized societies 在我们所谓文明社会中日益增多的犯罪行为
14 glorifies f415d36161de12f24f460e9e91dde5a9     
赞美( glorify的第三人称单数 ); 颂扬; 美化; 使光荣
参考例句:
  • He denies that the movie glorifies violence. 他否认这部影片美化暴力。
  • This magazine in no way glorifies gangs. 这本杂志绝对没有美化混混们。

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