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Russia's strikes on Ukraine may also have been meant to quell1 doubts at home

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Russia carried out a barrage3 of airstrikes across Ukraine on Monday. But what has been the reaction in Moscow to its own military escalation4? The Russian assaults were widely condemned5 by the West.

LEILA FADEL, HOST:

You can break the Russian invasion of Ukraine into two conflicts. There's the physical war - people killed, buildings destroyed - and there's the information war over what the conflict means.

STEVE INSKEEP, HOST:

On Monday, Russia launched dozens of missiles into Ukrainian cities. The places struck ranged from an energy company headquarters to a playground. It's hard to say the strikes on civilian6 targets affected7 Ukraine's military, but they may have been intended to have an effect inside Russia.

FADEL: NPR's Charles Maynes is joining us now from Moscow. Hi, Charles.

CHARLES MAYNES, BYLINE8: Good morning.

FADEL: Good morning. So Russia apparently9 responded to the bombing of a symbolically10 important bridge. What else were those attacks saying?

MAYNES: Yeah, you know, it seems like it was an effort to quell growing doubts here in Russia about how the conflict is unfolding. For weeks, we've seen growing criticism among hard-liners here over the military strategy. They argue Russia has essentially11 been losing in Ukraine because the Kremlin was fighting with one hand tied behind its back. In other words, Russia wasn't using the full force available to it. In that sense, yesterday's attacks appear not to be a one-off, but signal this conflict is escalating12. There were more attacks on Ukrainian infrastructure13 this morning reported.

And don't forget, just hours after this Saturday bridge incident, we saw Putin promote a new battlefield commander, General Sergei Surovikin, to oversee14 the military operations in Ukraine. Surovikin is seen as a more ruthless military strategist based on his past experience overseeing, for example, Russia's military operations in Syria, particularly using rocket attacks.

FADEL: So what has been the response then, especially from hard-liners, to these attacks from these critics?

MAYNES: Well, nothing short of joy among nationalists and Kremlin loyalists. Ramzan Kadyrov, for example, the strongman leader of Chechnya, who was - who's really gone after the defense15 ministry16 over these recent setbacks, now says he's 100% behind this new, tougher approach. Others, like Dmitry Medvedev, who's a member of the Security Council, seem to view the attacks as basically a reboot of Russia's military campaign. You know, he's again talking about the total dismantling17 of the Kyiv government. And remember, that was an early goal of Putin's in the conflict. And then there's Anton Krasovsky. He's one of the more provocative18 propagandists on the state-sponsored RT Russia television channel.

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ANTON KRASOVSKY: (Non-English language spoken).

MAYNES: So here's Krasovsky on television saying this was a fantastic day, and he literally19 danced to the news. This is what Russians, he claimed, had been waiting for all these months, you know, proof they were winning. And he said he wanted to wake up every morning and read the same pain was being inflicted20 on the enemy.

FADEL: But does this then back Putin into a corner because he'll have to keep delivering on this more forceful approach? So does he run the danger of possibly looking weak again if he doesn't?

MAYNES: Well, it's true. They want Putin to go all in, but it may not be that simple. Russia has massive firepower, like the likes of which we saw yesterday. But supplies aren't unlimited21. Even bombing Ukraine on a massive scale - if it inflicts22 damage, it kills people, but it doesn't change the situation on the battlefield. And there, you know, Russia's struggles continue. In recent weeks, it's lost large swathes of territory in areas Moscow claimed to have already annexed23. And a mobilization drive and effort to inject new troops has struggled amid sloppy24 implementation25 and resistance from the public. So yesterday's attacks seem to have pushed those problems into the background. But just for now.

FADEL: NPR's Charles Maynes in Moscow, thank you so much for your time.

MAYNES: Thank you.


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