访谈录 2007-01-22&23, 伊反美头目萨德尔"喉舌"被捕

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We met with Hadi Abdul al-Darraji, a top aide to anti-American cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, at his home in Sadr city last spring. In our interview, he blamed the US for the sectarian violence in Iraq.

I believe that America is trying to start a civil war, he said. Tonight al-Darraji is in US custody¹ after a raid on this office in a mosque² complex in Baghdad carried out by special operation's forces. His arrest is making headlines because of its closeness to al-Sadr whose Mahdi army militia³ is accused of being behind many of the dead squad⁴ killings⁵ and sectarian violence tearing Iraq apart. But the Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki who depends heavily on al-Sadr for political support immediately distanced himself from the US raid. One of his advisors⁷ told CBS news they had not been consulted by the US. And this was not part of the new security plan. Even though the high profile arrest came just days after President Bush declared stopping the militias⁸ was part of his new security plan. In a sign of the growing divide between Maliki and Bush, he said the Iraqi government was not satisfied with the US explanation for the arrest and was demanding answers. That’s turned up the heats on coalition⁹ commanders here.

There's no shortage of cause been made, er, on the, on this individual, all we have to do is, present the case as to er, er, why we detained him, er we are doing that.

Sadr can't be pleased by this arrest, but so far, he's not looking to confront US forces. He sent a message to his followers¹⁰ not to fight during the Muslim holy month that begins this weekend. Tonight I spoke¹¹ with one of Sadr's fighters by phone from Sadr's city, and he told me "our orders are not to fight for now.” Kitty.

And Lara, how critical is it to neutralize¹² Sadr's army if Baghdad is ever to become stable and how likely is it that will happen giving the relationship between Sadr and Prime Minister Maliki?

Well, the relationship between Maliki and Sadr is critical because they've always been close political allies. In fact, Sadr's support put Maliki in power, so they need each other. And yet, the US says they can't confront Sadr militarily. If they take him head on and go into Sadr city, there will be a bloodbath and they won't risk that. So there has to be some kind of politic⁶ and military solution and what you are asking and people in Baghdad to believe is that Maliki, a prime minister that many say takes his orders from the militias is now going to act against Sadr and his militias. And many people here just don't believe that, Kitty.

Lara Logan's reporting tonight from Baghdad, thanks Lara.