美国国家公共电台 NPR--Former President Trump returns to Washington to deliver a policy speech

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Former President Trump¹ returns to Washington to deliver a policy speech

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Donald Trump is the featured speaker at the America First Policy Institute, a nonprofit formed to promote the ideas that would have been on the agenda for a second Trump term.

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The last time former President Trump was in Washington, D.C., was on the morning of January 20. He flew away on Marine³ One before the inauguration⁴, refusing to admit he lost. And that inauguration went forward despite an attack on the Capitol days earlier that was aimed at stopping the peaceful transfer of power.

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Today, Trump is back in D.C. after eight televised congressional hearings laid out a case to the nation that he was singularly responsible for that attack on January 6 and that he is unfit for office in the future.

FADEL: NPR White House correspondent Tamara Keith joins us now. Good morning, Tam.

TAMARA KEITH, BYLINE⁵: Good morning.

FADEL: So, Tam, what's the former president doing back in D.C.?

KEITH: He is the featured speaker at a conference of the America First Policy Institute. That's a group formed by former Trump administration officials to promote ideas that would have been on the agenda for a second Trump term or could be again. Trump's spokesman told me the former president's speech will focus on, quote, "a nation in decline that is driven in part by rising crime." And crime is an issue that Republicans plan to run on in the midterms, along with inflation and immigration. But if Trump were to give a totally focused, forward-looking policy speech, that would be a major departure for him.

FADEL: Right. And he's been giving a lot of speeches lately and continuing to push election lies.

KEITH: Yeah, he's never admitted he lost. Take this dose of alternate reality from a speech over the weekend to a group called Turning Point USA.

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DONALD TRUMP: I ran twice. I won twice and did much better the second time than I did the first.

KEITH: And to be very clear, he did not win the second time he ran.

FADEL: Right.

KEITH: But the crowd loved it.

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TRUMP: And now we may just have to do it again.

KEITH: Trump is still actively⁶ trying to get states to revisit the results from 2020. And this comes with the backdrop of the January 6 hearings. The committee played outtakes last week of a recorded speech he delivered on January 7, where he wouldn't say the election was over.

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TRUMP: But this election is now over. Congress has certified⁷ the results. I don't want to say the election's over. I just want to say Congress has certified the results without saying the election's over, OK?

KEITH: Trump still hasn't admitted the 2020 election is over, even as he makes noise about running in 2024.

FADEL: The 2024 campaign appears to be beginning in earnest. Former Vice⁸ President Mike Pence is also speaking in Washington this morning. Are there any indications that he might run?

KEITH: Well, Pence is certainly behaving like a man who's running for president - giving speeches, endorsing⁹ candidates - often different ones than Trump, more establishment candidates. A recent PBS NewsHour/Marist poll, NPR poll shows Trump's favorability is higher among Republicans than Pence's, and part of Pence's challenge is that he wasn't willing to break the law on January 6 and do what Trump wanted. Pence doesn't talk about any of that, though, outside of the occasional veiled reference to needing to look ahead and not back.

FADEL: Now, Pence's former chief of staff testified last week to a grand jury in Washington, D.C. What do you read into that?

KEITH: Our colleague Ryan Lucas confirmed it with a source familiar with the matter. We don't know what former chief of staff Marc Short was asked about, but he would have insight into the pressure campaign on the vice president to block certification of the electoral results. This indicates the Justice Department investigation¹⁰ has moved beyond the hundreds of prosecutions¹¹ of Trump supporters who busted¹² into the Capitol and may be moving up the chain into the White House.

FADEL: NPR White House correspondent Tamara Keith - thanks, Tam.

KEITH: You're welcome.