华盛顿邮报 特朗普爱荷华州取得压倒性胜利(5)

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    Yeah, I mean, former UN ambassador Nikki Haley does seem to have found a lot of success in this race or, I guess, success as it's defined in coming second to Donald Trump¹.

    是的，前联合国大使尼基·黑利似乎在这场竞选中取得了很多成功，我想，关于她成功的定义是排名仅次于唐纳德·特朗普。

    Meryl, I know that you followed Haley around. You've been talking to her voters.

    梅丽尔，我知道你一直在关注黑利。你一直在和她的选民交谈。

    Now, what is the presentation and argument that Haley is trying to make? And what do voters tell you about why they like Nikki Haley?

    现在，黑利想要展现什么政治观点及其理由? 关于选民们为什么喜欢尼基·黑利，他们是怎么说的?

    Nikki Haley has her stump² speech down really well, and she starts off by talking about what she's done in South Carolina.

    尼基·黑利的政治演说非常精彩，她首先谈到了她在南卡罗来纳州所做的事情。

    She compares herself to Trump in a way where she says, you know what, she offered stability to South Carolina.

    她把自己比作特朗普，她说她给南卡罗来纳州带来了稳定。

    And she says, like, "No more drama. No more chaos³. Our country needs to move on."她还说：“别再出现闹剧了。别再出现混乱了。我们的国家需要继续前进。”

    But she's still careful to also praise Trump and say that he was a great president at the right time, but that she can offer this new, young vision of what America could look like.

    但她仍然在合适的时间小心翼翼地赞扬特朗普，说他是一位伟大的总统，而她可以为美国提供一种新的、年轻的愿景。

    And when I've talked with voters after she speaks about how they felt about her, I have noticed that people who are on the fence really tend to lean into her after she's done speaking, so she is persuasive⁴ in her town halls, and they like how she answers questions.

    在黑利演讲完，我采访了选民对她的感受和看法，我注意到，在她讲完之后，那些持观望态度的人真的会倾向于支持她。因此，她在市政厅的演讲很有说服力，选民喜欢她回答问题的方式。

    And even what's interesting -- Oh, that's so funny. Vivek's bus is driving by me right now.

    更有趣的是，维维克的巴士正从我身边经过。

    Yeah, we should say you're in the car right now literally⁵ on the road, right?

    是，你现在在这辆车里，正在路上走着，对吧?

    I am in Marion, Iowa.

    我现在身处爱荷华州的马里昂。

    I'm sitting in the parking lot of a church where there was just a Trump surrogate event with Ben Carson, and I see Vivek's bus drive by. So that's just the sights of Iowa.

    我现在身处一座教堂的停车场里。在这里，刚刚举行了一场本·卡森代理特朗普的竞选活动，我看到维维克巴士开过。这就是爱荷华州的情况。

    Oh, that's too funny. Okay. But back to Nikki Haley.

    哦，那太有趣了。好，说回尼基·黑利。

    Meryl, I know that you actually met some college students visiting Iowa, and you talked to some of them, including Jack⁶ Sabo, about why they're supporting Haley?

    梅丽尔，我知道你在爱荷华州遇到了一些大学生，你和他们中的一些人聊了聊，包括杰克·萨博，为什么他们支持黑利?

    It was very interesting to run into college students that have been going to these events.

    遇到参加这些活动的大学生是非常有趣的。

    Some universities, like Duke University, have these programs where they take kids to actually see what the caucus⁷ looks like and hear from candidates.

    一些大学，比如杜克大学，有这样的项目。学校会带学生去看党团会议是什么样子的，听听候选人的讲话。

    And I ran into them at an Asa Hutchinson event.

    我在阿萨·哈钦森的活动上遇到了他们。

    So I got to ask them how their trip's been and who they've been talking with and who they like and dislike, and they, as people who lean Democratic, interestingly, most identified with Nikki Haley's message.

    我询问他们此行怎么样，他们都和谁聊过，喜欢谁、不喜欢谁。有趣的是，他们作为倾向民主党的选民，大多数都认同尼基·黑利的观点。